Throughout the second half of 2014 and into 2015, vacation rental managers have been reporting a multitude of issues with their listings on FlipKey/TripAdvisor.
From customer service to technology integration flaws and pricing complaints, property managers have been struggling with listing their properties and are questioning TripAdvisor’s dedication and direction regarding professionally managed vacation rentals.
After having all of their listings disappear from the FlipKey/TripAdvisor sites, one property manager sent the following email to their account manager:
An additional 13 days later……… ALL but the one new listing are still missing from TripAdvisor in [confidential location] ALL missing, [confidential location] ALL missing, [confidential location] ALL missing, [confidential location] ALL missing, This now means that [XX] listings have been MISSING FROM THE TRIPADVISOR LIVE SITES FOR OVER A MONTH DURING THE BUSIEST AND MOST PROFITABLE TIME OF THE YEAR.
And this particular issue, along with a dozen others, has been reported for the last 18 months to VRM Intel, so we wanted to know…What is going on with TripAdvisor/FlipKey?
This series of articles covers the following:
- History of TripAdvisor/FlipKey
- TripAdvisor’s decline in customer service and technology support
- Rate parity for professionally managed and owner managed vacation rentals
- Difference in treatment of vacation rentals vs hotels, attractions, and restaurants
- Negative impact of issues for property managers
- Airbnb, HomeAway and TripAdvisor comparison
- TripAdvisor’s corporate direction regarding the vacation rental industry
- Competing with Airbnb by offering free listings to shared space hosts
- Response from Tracy Zhen, General Manager, TripAdvisor Vacation Rentals
- United effort among vacation rental managers to address concerns with TripAdvisor CEO
Series:
Part 4: Response from TripAdvisor to issues and vacation rental managers unite to address concerns
Click here to get a pdf of the combined series of TripAdvisor Issues articles
History of TripAdvisor/FlipKey
TripAdvisor was founded in February 2000 by Stephen Kaufer, Langley Steinert, and several others. Stephen Kaufer says the original idea wasn’t a user generated social media site to swap reviews. “We started a site where we were focused more on those official words from guidebooks or newspapers or magazines. We also had a button in the very beginning that said visitors add your own review and boy did that just as take off.”
In 2004, TripAdvisor was purchased by IAC/InterActiveCorp. IAC spun off its travel businesses under the Expedia, Inc. name in August 2005.
In August of 2008, Expedia-owned TripAdvisor announced it had taken a majority stake in vacation rental marketplace FlipKey which had 50,000 U.S. vacation rental listings. In perspective – in 2008 -HomeAway had over 250,000 listings.
“Vacation rentals is the hot emerging category in travel and FlipKey has a great foundation and a smart business approach,” said Steve Kaufer, founder and CEO of TripAdvisor about the acquisition. “We believe we can help FlipKey become the leader in the space and, in turn, FlipKey content will satisfy a growing need for TripAdvisor users.”
In December 2011, TripAdvisor was spun off from Expedia in a public offering. FlipKey remained under the TripAdvisor umbrella.
TripAdvisor announced in February 2015 that they are moving away with the FlipKey brand and naming their vacation rental initiatives as TripAdvisor Vacation Rentals (TAVR).
TripAdvisor’s Decline in Customer Service and Technology Support
As most property managers who work with TripAdvisor know, many of the familiar faces in TripAdvisor Vacation Rentals (TAVR), formerly known as FlipKey, have left the company, leaving an apparent hole in knowledge of the industry.
The customer service issues reported by property managers are:
- Inaccurate listings and inability to correct issues
- Issues with technology and integration with software providers
- Expired listings and deactivated listings appearing as active
- Listings not being removed after the TAVR advertising contract expires
- Inability to respond to reviews
- Inability to suppress reviews on manager-owned websites
- Lack of technical support
- Poor customer account management and communications
One property manager said, “I’ve talked to several other managers around the country and they all agree FlipKey’s service to property managers is absolutely horrible. When you call their office their voicemails are always full and they’re always traveling around the country. Somebody needs to bring attention to them so they can get their act together.”
Disappearing Listings
Sanctuary Vacation Rentals, located in California’s Monterey Peninsula, saw all of their listings disappear from the TripAdvisor sites in July 2015. The email to TripAdvisor stated, “Last Wednesday (7/15) ALL our listings went offline on our FK Admin site and ALL the live FlipKey and TripAdvisor marketing sites.”
According to an insider, TripAdvisor recently made significant changes to their technology. It is possible that missing or incomplete data fields in integration with software interfaces caused problems, but the lack of experience and industry knowledge in the new TripAdvsior team has made it difficult to identify or address the issues.
Rate Display
A vacation rental manager in Oregon reported, “I have gone down to listing only a few homes. Because their model is to list the absolute lowest nightly rate we have, we get lots of people inquiring who are looking for a cheap deal. For some reason, they do not understand that rates are higher in the summer season and that the posted nightly rate does not include taxes, fees, etc.”
Erroneous Reviews
In Maine, Justin Ford, owner of On the Water in Maine Vacation Rentals, said, “The biggest issue we had with FlipKey and TripAdvisor (that they both blamed on each other and never fixed) was that a property that had previously been managed by another rental company switched to us for management. We, of course, listed it on FlipKey as we have a relationship with them. FlipKey ‘identified’ that the property was the same one listed with the previous agency and not only re-attached previous negative reviews for that property to our new listing of it, but they also copied over the horrible responses to those reviews from the previous agency, and attached our logo to those responses making it out that we responded to the negative reviews.”
Ford added, “We spent 6 hours on the phone with FlipKey and TripAdvisor trying to fix it, but neither would. We finally had to change the marketing name of the property and the address slightly to get the negative reviews to disappear.”
Ford received the following response from TripAdvisor:
With our big site migration, that I’m sure you noticed in January, we had a ton of issues and each account manager got quite behind. After February, the team then had two account managers leave and had to start maintaining all their accounts as well. This is by no means an excuse, but I want to make sure you’re aware that, unfortunately, everyone was behind as far as response time goes. Since then we’ve hired two new account managers and have mostly gotten back up to speed. I understand this doesn’t fix the situation you had with slow response rates, but it was definitely an adjustment period here.
Annee Martin, founder of Sanctuary Vacation Rentals in Pacific Grove, CA, also received unsatisfactory responses, and as the summer comes to a close, Sanctuary has still not seen all of their listings return to the sites.
Martin said, “We have been thoroughly disappointed in the fundamental lack of stability in their service and technology. Uptime is something that we have come to expect from marketplaces, and we do not have these issues with any other providers. The folks at FlipKey have developed a business model that is counter to the goals and practices of professional managers. Their current model may be better for RBOs.”
As for Justin Ford…”We were extremely frustrated that no one at TripAdvisor or Flipkey would take any ownership to fix (the issues). We recently ended our relationship with FlipKey.”
Part 4: Response from TripAdvisor to issues and vacation rental managers unite to address concerns
Click here to get a pdf of the combined series of TripAdvisor Issues articles
By Amy Hinote
I’m a was I host for flipkey/tripadvisor I sign up with them to ten my private room out to traveling guests. They was was eagerly signed me up and posted all of my photos of my place on their site. A few weeks on in a got a few confirmed booking one of them was for 3 days and the day before the reservation the woman texted me via tripadvisor asking the same question that was ask by her and co firmed almost a week back, “your ad states that you have a two bedroom one bath can you tell me if anyone less else is staying while I’m staying there” (the reply: as I answered this question before, the apt is a two bed room one bathroom I stay in One of the bed rooms as the ad states private room with shared bath) her excuse for trying to get out of the resovervation to flipkey/tripadvisor is that she didnt know that i was staying in my apartment even though she booked a private room in my apartment.
Flipkey/ tripadvisor called me to tell me that they will cancel the reservation for her on My behalf and I will have to pay a free of $150.00 for the cancellation, like what the fuc****k! Yeah! And this money will be forcefully deducted from future bookings. So this is my solution to them if you cancel this reservation for this woman and I don’t get the late cancellation fees but instead have to pay a cancellation fee to flipkey/ tripadvisor please cancel all confirmed reservations and my account. They cancel the woman reservation but didn’t cancel the other 3 or so reservations nor did they closed my account. Days went by and I continue to get inquires for my room from flipkey/ tripadvisor so I call customer seresvice again and ask that my account be closed and all confirmed reservations be cancel this time they advisad me that My account is closed and I will see an email confirming this. I got the email confirming the closing of my account but no confirmation of the canceled reservations so I desided to contact all of my confirmed reservations and told them that due to flipkey/tripadvisor unreasonable handling of my situation and are forcing me to pay $150. For reason way beyond my control I’ll not honored any confirmed bookings I have with flipkey/tripadvisor. Even then when the vacationers demand explanations flipkey/tripadvisor Denis to disclose that they were unreasonably docking me $150. And that’s the reason for the i teruption of their vacations. Flipkey/tripadvisor wants to ripoff poor people like us and ride us to the bank like a jackhorse and I wasn’t along for the ride.
Hey mark ……do you have have a legit email address for customers support TripAdvisor flick key …that I can advise them …about this huge problem I have regarding the owner has agreed to refund me in full ..reason that I’ve been sooooo mucked around …but flip key want to charge her $150 ..to refund. As its was a not refundable booking and ihowever its not for 11 months time. They say they need to hear from me…after link after link darn right impossible when I finally get to sen a txt its in a tiny little box …I do mean tiny ..and a reply comes back (robo ) …..stating nothing …I got an email from customer care when you reply to the email it comes back to you…omg …. I have cancelled my trip to New York now due to the above. The ph number for Australian to phone is fake. So are all the email addresses on line.i have been told to contact the owner in box ….truly she is lovely. I’ve wuoted my booking number . Trip advisor is suppose to be a site u can trust …and easy bookings …so not ..thank you for your time cheers jane
Flipkey and TripAdviser are all about making money. They don’t care about their homeowners that pay good money to list on their site. Many vacationers are hesitate to book on their site due to the booking fee that they charge the vacationer. I don’t know why more and more guests just don’t book privately, directly through the owners, especially in popular areas like Disney World. If you are ever looking for accommodations near Disney contact us http://www.floridavacationhomeusa.com
I have to say that I have been equally frustrated with the service that we have received from HomeAway-VRBO. I understand the need to improve processes but continually making wholesale changes to the HomeAway-VRBO platform midstream, mid-year is unacceptable. When we agreed to pay for top listing spot in our area for all our properties, HomeAway mid way through our paid listing subscriptions changes their algorithms, processes and rules to continually force their customer, us and all others to further upgrade, use their book it program and double up our work to have to respond within their site or face a poor or no response grade within their system. I do not see that HomeAway are looking out for us or others, their customers one bit, rather further trying to pad their own pockets and improve the stock valuation of HomeAway on the backs of and without concern to their customer, those that list on their site. I for one am working to wean ourselves off of these marketing means as I do not see them caring about their customers needs rather continually their own.